How find out which state's law applies?

Posted by mike - November 20th, 2008

  • What's the best way to go about researching whether California or New York law applies to a breach of fiduciary duty claim made by a California resident who is a member of a limited liability company which is organized under the laws of New York and has both NY and CA offices? (I have access to law search engines, but am unsure how to get started.)


  • Do you have the documents used to form the company? It isn't unusual for the incorporation papers (or the equivalent) to indicate which state's laws apply. Also, what year was the LLC formed? Thanks!


  • Interesting question! In the legal field the "choice of law" (also known as "conflict of laws") questions can be among the toughest to feret out the answer. It is in this area where it becomes most apparent that law is an art, not a science. Firstly, the advice given by others here is to be well taken. As mvguy indicates - check the membership agreement (aka operating agreement) for a choice of law provision governing disputes between members (or alternatively members and managers, depending on the type of LLC). I think that you will find that both states, New York and California, as well as most other states, will tend (though not blindly) to follow a contractual provision apertaining to choice of law: "[w]hen a rational businessperson enters into an agreement establishing a transaction or relationship and provides that disputes arising from the agreement shall be governed by the law of an identified jurisdiction, the logical conclusion is that he or she intended that law to apply to all disputes arising out of the transaction or relationship." Washington Mutual Bank, FA v. Superior Court, 103 Cal.Rptr.2d 320 (Cal. 2001). The more difficult issues arise when the operating agreement is silent on the issue. The following is excerpted from the California decision Washington Mutual Bank, FA v. Superior Court, 103 Cal.Rptr.2d 320 (Cal.2001): "When there is no advance agreement on applicable law, but the action involves the claims of residents from outside California, the trial court may analyze the governmental interests of the various jurisdictions involved to select the most appropriate law." "California has adopted the Restatement, Second, of Conflict of Laws position, specifically that of section 187. Under that approach, the court must first determine: "(1) whether the chosen state has a substantial relationship to the parties or their transaction, or (2) whether there is any other reasonable basis for the parties' choice of law. If neither of these tests is met, that is the end of the inquiry, and the court need not enforce the parties' choice of law. If, however, either test is met, the court must next determine whether the chosen state's law is contrary to a fundamental policy of California. If there is no such conflict, the court shall enforce the parties' choice of law. If, however, there is a fundamental conflict with California law, the court must then determine whether California has a 'materially greater interest than the chosen state in the determination of the particular issue....' (Rest., 187, subd. (2).) If California has a materially greater interest than the chosen state, the choice of law shall not be enforced, for the obvious reason that in such circumstance we will decline to enforce a law contrary to this state's fundamental policy." As you can see, this approach leaves the court with substantial discretion to do what it believes is just and necessary to protect its state's interest. Why this issue becomes highly disputed is that offensive (vs. defensive, not smelly :-) pleading will find that the plaintiff will file in that forum state and venue where he/she has the greatest advantage. An attorney would have to counsel you here, but you will probably find, if the operating agreement is silent as to choice of law, that you can file in either jurisdiction, and argue that the law of that jurisdiction should apply. THEN, if the defendant wants to argue for a change, its his dime (that's not to say that your attorneys meter isn't running, but the other sides will be clicking a lot faster than yours). You have other interesting choices as well, for example whether to file in Federal Court of State Court, and where. Many practitioners would believe that Fed Court has its advantages what with smaller dockets and the ability to focus more clearly on more complex litigation. A question for me to pose to you: Have you considered a "Shareholder Derivative Suit"? This concept is equally applicable to LLC's and is a terribly effective tool for seeking redress for minority member oppression and the like. Nice thing is, if you prevail, you can almost always get attorneys fees. And, the nasty insiders in some cases must recuse themselves from the board deliberations concerning the litigation. Just an idea to toss into the mix. Here are a couple of sites that I think are very instructive in this complex area - I think you will find that they are rich: http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/conflicts.html http://www.willamette.edu/wucl/wlo/conflicts/index.htm http://www.nvinc.com/california_approach.htm ALSO, you mentioned that you have access to legal search engines (I presume something like Lexis, Westlaw, or Loislaw). Find these cases from the Delaware Chancery Courts and I believe that you will find them very instructive: Court of Chancery of Delaware. In re BIGMAR, INC., SECTION 225 LITIGATION No. CIV.A. 19289-NC. Date Argued: March 1, 2002. Post-Argument Submissions Completed: March 28, 2002. Date Decided: April 5, 2002. Court of Chancery of Delaware. David B. CLARK, and United California Discount Corporation, a California corporation, Plaintiffs, v. Phillip KELLY and La Empresa De La Mar D'Oro, Inc., a California corporation, Defendants, and RIVIERA FINANCE LLC, a Delaware limited liability company, Nominal Defendant. No. C.A. 16780. June 24, 1999. Search Terms Used: ://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&querytime=Fx2WjB&q=%22choice+of+law%22 ://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22choice+of+law%22+california+%22New+York%22 I hope that this will help you in answering your question. If you require ANY need for clarification, please ask and I will be glad to help some more. Best of luck! And thanks again for a question on this fascinating area of the law. Tom


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